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Timeless brands, deliberate friction and the value of design
Matter Of Form’s Anant Sharma questions luxury as a label, discussing customer friction, human imperfection and how a design consultancy can price strategy beyond hourly rate cards.
The conversation
Episode 17
In a world obsessed with 15-second micro-trends and "zero-click" conversions, Anant Sharma (CEO of Matter Of Form) is making a radical case for slowing down. In this episode of The Indian AdGeek, host Vishal Mehra sits down with Anant to deconstruct why the term "luxury" has become a marketing crutch and why he favours timelessness as a framework for building brands.
We dive deep into:
* The Anti-Luxury Stance: Why calling a brand 'luxury' is a sign of creative laziness. * Positive Friction: Why making your customers work a little harder can actually increase brand loyalty. * The AI Paradox: As "perfect" AI content becomes cheap, why is "human imperfection" the new premium? * Know Your Client: How Matter Of Form records confidential internal conversations with clients to understand their business models, roles and pressures. * Value vs. Time: How to move away from hourly rate cards and capture the true value of strategy.
What The Luxe Podcast
Key Takeaways
- Matter Of Form’s shift to brand-led CX followed a deliberate narrowing of its digital businesses; Sharma defines timelessness through founding spirit, long-term thinking and design advantage.
- Positive friction should deepen meaningful brand engagement, Sharma argues; he excludes routine convenience purchases and criticises coercive exclusivity.
- A timeless strategy should study the behaviour beneath trends while still recognising differences in future customers’ values and context.
- Sharma connects the appeal of imperfect craft to visible human effort, while also seeing AI as useful for consistent downstream brand communications.
- A pitch should explain commercial risk, customer insight and delivery strategy within the client’s actual constraints, rather than let agency credentials dominate.
- Value pricing depends on the proposition’s differentiation: Sharma separates costing from pricing and cautions that commoditised services still face time and rate competition.
- Confidential Know Your Client recordings support internal learning about clients’ business models and pressures; they are described as a way to improve the work.
Additional subjects
Editorial analysis
An editorial interpretation of the conversation, distinguishing the guest’s arguments from verified business outcomes.
Why Matter Of Form chose to narrow
Anant Sharma describes Matter Of Form’s evolution from a digital product company into a consultancy focused on brand-led customer experience. His interests in journalism, magazine design and computers initially came together in digital products and startup ventures. Larger transformation programmes followed, but expanding across the digital value chain left the business stretched. He says the eventual pivot meant giving up substantial implementation opportunities to pursue smaller brand engagements. Timelessness became a way to describe clients with a strong founding spirit, a long-term outlook and a belief in design as competitive advantage.
When friction creates meaning
Sharma questions the usefulness of luxury as a catch-all label when it obscures differences in craft, provenance and quality. He argues that technology’s drive towards efficiency can also remove meaningful human encounters. In that context, deliberate friction can encourage customers to engage with a story before buying. He explicitly distinguishes this from routine purchases where convenience matters, and criticises heavy-handed exclusivity. His advice on timelessness is similarly qualified: understand future customers and cultural change, but investigate the underlying behaviours rather than simply chasing the latest trend. For hospitality design, audience, location and brand promise should guide aesthetic choices.
Imperfect craft in an efficient world
The discussion of AI turns to what people value in human effort. Sharma sees imperfect craft as evidence of skill, commitment and the person behind a product. His current interests extend beyond screen-based user experience into sensory and spatial design, including sound, scent and well-being. Yet he also sees practical uses for AI in improving consistency across everyday brand communications. His concern is that agencies relying on production and scale will face pressure as outputs become easier to make. He argues that a more valuable role joins the client’s commercial ambitions to direct, human understanding of customers and staff.
Pricing decisions against client risk
For pitching and pricing, Sharma returns to the client’s risks and the value of getting decisions right. Agencies should explain business impact, understand customer needs and show how work will be delivered within the client’s constraints. He recalls learning that a growing credentials deck could crowd out the client’s problems. Value pricing, he cautions, depends on what is being sold and how commoditised it is; costing a project and pricing it are different activities. Finally, he describes internal education and confidential Know Your Client conversations as ways to understand clients’ working lives, business models and pressures, making the consultancy’s work more informed.
Questions & answers
Why did Matter Of Form deliberately narrow its scope?
Matter Of Form’s shift to brand-led CX followed a deliberate narrowing of its digital businesses; Sharma defines timelessness through founding spirit, long-term thinking and design advantage.
Can friction ever improve the customer experience?
Positive friction should deepen meaningful brand engagement, Sharma argues; he excludes routine convenience purchases and criticises coercive exclusivity.
How does a timeless brand approach changing trends?
A timeless strategy should study the behaviour beneath trends while still recognising differences in future customers’ values and context.
What can human craft contribute as AI production improves?
Sharma connects the appeal of imperfect craft to visible human effort, while also seeing AI as useful for consistent downstream brand communications.
Where is value pricing credible and where is it not?
Value pricing depends on the proposition’s differentiation: Sharma separates costing from pricing and cautions that commoditised services still face time and rate competition.
Sources & attribution
Original publisher audio (archived enclosure): Original publisher audio (archived enclosure).
Podcast episode on Spotify: Podcast episode on Spotify.
Podcast video on YouTube: Podcast video on YouTube.
Original publication: The Indian AdGeek, Episode 17, featuring Anant Sharma; original publisher date: 2026-01-18.
Method and attribution: This analysis and the five Q&As are editorial syntheses, not verbatim statements or substitutes for listening to the original conversation. Guest judgments, examples, forecasts and reported business metrics should not be confused with independently audited findings. Research timestamps do not represent podcast chapter timings.