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Why agency relevance may matter more than scale
Rishad Tobaccowala offers a global agency perspective on consolidation, AI and future work, while arguing for storytelling, provenance and emotion as sources of relevance.
The conversation
Rishad Tobaccowala considers the advertising industry after a period of consolidation and rapid AI development. He questions whether scale by itself creates relevance and argues for the continuing value of storytelling, provenance and emotion.
The conversation covers agency positioning against consultancies, agentic AI, smaller teams, more flexible workforces and a pitch approach based on perspective rather than presentation volume. These are Tobaccowala’s assessments of possible industry directions, not settled forecasts.
Key Takeaways
- Tobaccowala questions whether agency consolidation alone solves the industry’s challenges as AI changes how work is produced.
- He argues that agencies should strengthen storytelling, provenance and emotion rather than imitate consulting firms.
- The conversation considers agentic AI, smaller teams and more flexible workforces as possibilities for the agency model.
- Tobaccowala describes a pitch approach built around perspective and provocation rather than presentation volume.
Additional subjects
Editorial analysis
An editorial interpretation of the conversation, distinguishing the guest’s arguments from verified business outcomes.
Consolidation under an AI deadline
Rishad Tobaccowala sees a future for advertising, media and marketing, but questions whether consolidation prepares agencies for it. Discussing the Omnicom–IPG merger, he acknowledges potential benefits from media scale, data integration, lower duplication and reduced industry capacity. His concern is that a lengthy integration could absorb attention while AI changes client needs. He treats the merger’s prospects as a judgment call, crediting the people involved rather than predicting inevitable failure. He is especially interested in companies built around AI, distributed talent and partnerships that scale capabilities rather than simply adding employees.
The specialist’s competitive position
Against consultancies, he argues that agencies should deepen strengths in storytelling, design, provenance, brands, emotion and the daily work of delivery. Relationships with the managers who implement ideas matter alongside access to the boardroom. His strategic choice is between substantial scale and a focused, world-class specialism, supported by partners. He also urges leaders to think like immigrants: approach the category as outsiders, challenge incumbents as underdogs and accept short-term discomfort for longer-term opportunity. Technology becomes useful through changes in leadership, culture and the business model.
Redesigning the whole company around AI
For Tobaccowala, AI belongs inside the strategy of the whole business. Using shared tools is insufficient differentiation; the opportunity is to reconsider what the company exists to deliver. He expects agents to undertake more work, while people provide insight, imagination, iteration and oversight. His enthusiasm for smaller teams and flexible work does not imply one arrangement for everyone: he proposes office-based training for newcomers, more presence from senior leaders and greater flexibility for others, supplemented by in-person gatherings. His claims about workforce composition and AI’s speed remain forecasts and observations offered in the conversation, rather than universal benchmarks.
The slow transition beyond timesheets
The commercial thread is to sell valuable results rather than hours. He envisages agencies reducing reliance on staffing fees and sharing measurable client upside, but describes a transition taking years and leaves the appropriate percentage open. Platform automation still leaves room for agencies to connect channels, understand consumers and contribute complementary capabilities. In pitches, he recommends working backwards from the action sought, then supplying insight, imagination, an idea and supporting examples. For existing clients, regular senior attention, fresh thinking and managed team changes accompany the continuing obligation to deliver today.
Questions & answers
Why might a large merger make an agency less responsive?
Tobaccowala acknowledges the merger’s scale and cost rationale, but questions whether integration demands could weaken responsiveness as AI changes the market.
Can a focused specialist compete with a holding company?
He sees a defensible agency position in substantial scale or a world-class specialism, with partnerships connecting capabilities that one firm cannot deliver alone.
What do agencies still offer that consultancies struggle to replicate?
Agency strengths against consultancies include storytelling, emotion and provenance, together with the everyday delivery work carried out through middle and junior management.
Why is AI adoption not the same as AI-led business redesign?
He argues for redesigning the business around AI while retaining human insight, imagination and oversight, rather than treating access to common AI tools as differentiation.
How does a fee model move beyond hours without pretending attribution is simple?
He proposes reducing reliance on FTE billing and sharing measurable client upside over a multiyear transition; his illustrative percentage is explicitly not a fixed recommendation.
Sources & attribution
Original publisher audio (archived enclosure): Original publisher audio (archived enclosure).
Podcast episode on Spotify: Podcast episode on Spotify.
Podcast video on YouTube: Podcast video on YouTube.
Original publication: The Indian AdGeek, Episode 15, featuring Rishad Tobaccowala; original publisher date: 2025-12-21.
Method and attribution: This analysis and the five Q&As are editorial syntheses, not verbatim statements or substitutes for listening to the original conversation. Guest judgments, examples, forecasts and reported business metrics should not be confused with independently audited findings. Research timestamps do not represent podcast chapter timings.